Comments for Obama's Health-Care Plan: Pros and Cons Debate at http://www.familydoctormag.com , comment 1 to 105 out of 20 comments http://www.familydoctormag.com Wed, 22 May 2013 13:53:40 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-2020 How about we just eliminate all insurance altogether? How many people would drive their cars if we were not required to have auto insurance? Who's going to pay for your car, bodily injury, etc when an accident occurs? And let's eliminate home owners insurance, we don't need that anymore as well. Because until a fire in the house happens let's not worry about it until afterwards. Same thing goes with healthcare, let's not worry about it until you actually get sick. And those that argue and say people choose not to get health insurance because it's their choice is blowing smoke up their...Who in their right mind chooses not to have health insurance if they have the money even in the most perfect health. Why would anyone want to play russian roulette with their health, and who can predict that they would never have a heart attack or stroke out of the blue? It's insanity for some of the arguments against health insurance. How many people have worked in the health industry for years and have seen people who only have the option of coming into the ER for treatment of preventative diseases, like diabetes, high blood pressure, anemia, AFD, colitis who end up in ICU because they can't get basic health care? Who takes care of them? ER is a triage care center, not treatment for chronic preventable diseases which escalate into more chronic irreversible damage, costs to hospitals, increased health care costs, because these people end up dying, and never pay because they become too sick to work. Guess who ends up paying? Isn't it better to change the tires on a car when it needs to be taken care of, instead of waiting till it has a blow out on the highway going 75mph? For yourself, and for the other drivers around you? Take a little time America, with your self-centered lives and illogical concepts and think about the big picture in mind. Maybe people should pick up the Stephen Covey books and try and learn the 7 Steps to Highly Effective People. So stop paying your insurance and home insurance and see what happens when SHTF. - Ruby Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:09:08 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-2019 This plan is not perfect but its a start. Imagine having a possibly debilitating disease and never be inh, approved for healthcare. Pre existing conditions will never be covered without intervention - K w Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:22:53 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-2018 I don't like Obamba care I come from a long line of doctors who are dedicated to their profession they feel it will hurt them economically plus the trust of their patients They do believe in health care but think the law should be rewritten without government control, only professional doctors and nurses involved - Susie Fomon Tue, 24 Jul 2012 07:56:49 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-2017 I do think we need health care but we don't need government telling us what to do this is AMERICA not a socialist country I we should be able to buy or not buy health care our choice I am against Obama care I come from a long line of excellent andoctors who would be affected greatly by this economically and care wise for their patients - Susie Fomon Tue, 24 Jul 2012 07:52:36 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-2016 What about the 3.8 percent real estate tax in Obama's health care plan takes affect 2013 on all real estate sales in U.S. Middle class is going to pay big again! - Joe Parker Tue, 24 Jul 2012 06:28:26 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-2006 I am 15 years old and my family is stuck in the crappy point of low income. We make too much money to receive welfare or live in affordable housing units, yet we make too little to buy a house with enough rooms for a 4 person household in a safe neighborhood. My family has been denied healthcare again and again. Almost no insurance agency will give us health insurance because my mother has colitis, and my whole family suffers because of that. If anyone offers insurance to her, the rate is more expensive than we could ever imagine paying. I currently have a displaced shoulder that no one can take care of because I don't have insurance. I can't afford an MRI to see how bad it is, and I can't afford to drive out to a clinic that will give me one for cheaper. Maybe my point of view is biased, but I think this bill is a wonderful idea. Sure, it has a lot of things that aren't necessary, but the bottom line is that it is going to help a lot of people, like me, get some help. - LHP Thu, 05 Jul 2012 16:16:14 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-2000 I think its crazy. Many of us pay for health insurance that we dont even use unless we need it. and when we need it we complain about the cost, especially if insurance doesnt cover it all (or only a portion). this bill wont take effect til 2014 as i understand, and wont come into full fruition til 10 years from now. It takes time to grow. I pay for my health benefits and still its ridiculous how much you actually end up paying for total cost: Medicine, stay at a hospital, procedures. Medicine was created and advanced for everyone, not just the people who can afford it. This bill makes it possible for people to afford it, even if its at the cost of higher taxes. With all the new medicine, test products, new practice...its hard for anyone whose not informed about EVERYTHING to make a proper decision. Doctors sell the product for results, its good to get results so we can get better medicine/practice, but putting the decision on someone who barely knows OR gets the minimum information about is crazy. People who argue about getting the freedom to make a decision about that is just crazy. Thats my 2 cents. - Johnny Boy Mon, 02 Jul 2012 04:47:00 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-1998 Medicare, Medicaid and employer-mandated insurance CREATED the explosion in medical costs by unhinging users from day-to-day medical delivery. Moreover, government mandates have created an enormous administrative compliance overhead/burden for providers. Realize that that this burden (not to mention fraud) is built into the cost of EVERY service you receive at the doctor. So, now I'm to believe that creating new agencies/panels/bureaucracy, and adding ~16,000 new IRS agents will somehow create better efficiencies? Really? Think about the absurdity of that notion in light of our current fiscal plight for a moment. Now, say you believe it with a straight face. If you can that with a straight face, I recommend seeking help before the flood of 3rd world practitioners with 3rd world training is the only option left for service. But hey, I hear they work for cheap! Entitlement spending is bankrupting our country, and Obamacare just laced us up with a pair of lead boots. Brilliant! - Paul Descartes Sun, 01 Jul 2012 06:23:15 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-1997 If u apply simple economic law to the health care bill you can only realize that cost will go up, abuse of the system will be rampid, control and oversite will be impossible, and the economic growth of American citzens will reverse. Now, think about the people who now will have insurance! They will flood the market which will lead to a shortage and a decline in care quality. Then, people will rush to meet demand which will lead to an even further drop in the quality of care that will expand the lack of control and the expansion of abuse. - Mark Orr Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:01:50 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-1996 My son born a preemie in 1995 - denied ss, No asssitance - dad made to much money!!! What gets me is that if you read the fine print any child born under 2.5 pounds gets asssitance - excuse me 2.09 pounds! Now our inusurance did cover for birth and complications - but as soon as he left hospital only covered for general care - now what I dont understand is he was born with retinopathy and developed EXOTROPIA in both eyes - again no assistance from public entities - now the public school noticed hand eye coordination issues - all he got was a clothespin from his teacher to see spatial and mom did vision therapy at home out of my pocket! All the years of school we went through (fill in your own words)! Now in 2009 my insurance plans medical and vision could not decide if the issue was a medical or vision plan issue - guess what after all the grief - the medical took it and eye surgery was finally done!!! Now still having issues with eye giving out on him - finally got a 504 plan in 11th grade - THANK YOU!!! SEEING IS BELIEVING!!! - carol edmonds Fri, 29 Jun 2012 02:44:52 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-1995 Well its not about being against affordable health care. Its more about extracting the poison pills that are in this bill. For example, those who chose not to be serviced by the governmen's health plan will be forced to pay a penalty. The government should not force people to buy health care instead it should be offered and people who are in need can get the care that they are seeking. We should be against this bill because it is another form of conditioning people into thinking that the government know what is best for everyone else. As for myself I don't have health care, but I can't be OK with this bill because it is acting in a form of dictatorship. To make this bill friendlier, we need to just offer affordable health care and not force it onto the population. - Julio Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:13:22 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-1994 Why be against this act? There are millions struggling, and this plan helps millions. American priorities are so out of order. We will rant and rave over a dog being hurt rather than the health of people going through issues. Get it together, nay sayers. Put yourself in someone else's shoes--The single mother, families trying to make ends meet, senior citizens out of work, homeless men and women on the street corner in the dead of winter-- and think of how this would help you. Be geartful someone cares enough about everyone. We, as Americans, have been going through for years. Finally, some relief. - Charlii Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:02:04 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-1992 The lower pay scale for doctors is a problem. If you take away the pay, doctors will have all these loans from years of college and medical school, and they will be working long and random hours for a very unrewarding pay. Sure they say people go into the career "to help people," but money is probably one of the biggest factors. Less and less people are going to want to be doctors or nurses. Therefore, there will be less and less people to go to when you are sick. Going to a doctor's office is going to be one huge waiting line. My doctors are already talking about quitting and pursuing another career path. I definitely think we need health care in America, but I just don't know that I agree with the current bill. - madscout Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:30:47 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-1991 There should be no such thing as an insurance company. All Health services should be affordable and feasible to the public, and Medical Education should be funded by the government. A 200K loan is not funny. Ha ha. Recently I was billed a $1,000 fine for labwork. I paid $15 and my insurance company negotiated the bill down to $15. How much paperwork and time and money could be saved if my bill was $30 (not $1000) and I went home in peace without paying any medical insurance every month. In many other countries it costs maybe $50 - $100 for quality healthcare to fix a broken bone. And drug companies should not be profiting this much from their patented drugs anyway, from which the CEO and Business Executives take home all the profits leaving the scientists who actually DEVELOPED the drug with a small, unfair salary. I think low-cost, effective, and efficient alternative medicine along with a well educated society will be the new tomorrow. Getting sick or not getting sick is rarely dependent upon heredity or random factors, it is usually a matter of lifestyle. Of course I still believe in the greatness and necessity of Emergency Rooms. Just not in their bills. - Sru Thu, 28 Jun 2012 05:15:22 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-1873 I'm sick but irrisponsible. Thanks for the money everyone :D - joe moma Sat, 05 May 2012 16:58:21 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-1813 Frankly I am surprised at the posts that suppose that some haven't read the bill (because they disagree with it). I am for the mandate and against subsidizing folks who earn as much as $92,000 a year for a family of four. I am against the expansion of Medicaid without specific limits,, and definitely against the Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB). This is the part that some have labeled "death panels", not the "end-life-counseling-services" that Sarah Palin decried. IPAB is in charge of limited Medicare funds (the bill caps Medicare spending though congress of course can raise the limit). Still, this board can and will have the power to decide on healthcare services based not on quality or need, but rather strictly on costs. Using comparative effectiveness (which the ACA directs) will also reduce options and choice to patients. What works best for most will be good enough for all. I am also against the pre-existing condition clause. Those who haven't bothered to participate in paying for insurance shouldn't expect to receive the same benefits as those that have been paying in all along. I propose portability of healthcare, that no new employer or insurer can refuse coverage or payment for pre-existing conditions as long as insurance coverage has been on-going and continuous. I am also against the 40% tax on "Cadillac" healthcare plans. Why "punish" someone because they chose the highest level of coverage they can afford and then expect them pay even more for it? - H. A. Stowe Wed, 04 Apr 2012 01:21:36 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-1799 dont believe the hype most country have higher education with less coast better doctors that want to help sick not buy more cars the last person you see in the hospital is the doctor on your way out not good guys even cuba does a better job with care its sad america is hurting i travel and see what i see it is sad !!!! most of us dont step out we are far from the best - gilbert Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:09:59 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-1631 If they cant afford it, then they dont deserve it. - Lolz Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:47:58 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-1594 Has anyone whose commented negatively against the Affordable Care Act actually read the thing. I've read it and most of the things you people are complaining about simply are not there. Where are you getting your information? This is part of the problem with this country. Too many of us are willing to allow talking heads tell us whats what and form our opinions for us when we can easily go find the truth and form our opinions for ourselves. This is too critical a moment in our history to be asleep at the wheel while others drive (and if they have their way, right into a ditch). I'm 23 years old. I've spent 12 years of my life being tought how great this country is supposed to be. But, with this level of willful ignorance I'm not so sure. Wake up America! - Patrice Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:24:01 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/1291-obamas-health-care-plan-doctors-debate-pros-and-cons.html#comment-1577 Read the Bill and make your own decisions. Don - Dr. Don Mungerhoff Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:55:02 +0100