Comments for When Does Life Begin? Medical experts debate abortion issue. at http://www.familydoctormag.com , comment 1 to 20 out of 20 comments http://www.familydoctormag.com Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:12:48 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-216 I have a problem with prolife people calling prochoice people pro-abortion or anti-life. Family planning programs usually promote education and part of being prochoice is having access to this education. I would say many or most prochoice people would like to at least avoid abortion if it is possible. We try to educate people on proper contraceptive use for this very reason. Studies show that when these programs are enacted, abortion rates go down. Outlawing abortion does not prevent it from happening. It does not even decrease the numbers,in some instances, abortion rates go up. Also,in Latin America, it is illegal in most circumstances to have an abortion, but they have one of the highest abortion rates in the world. Per capita, Chili has a higher abortion rate than Latin America. In Chili, abortions are not allowed in any circumstance. 70,000 woman in Latin America die each year from illegal abortions. If the number of abortions do not decrease when outlawed, but the number of woman dying does increase, how is this prolife? - Alicia Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:07:57 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-215 i am intrigued by the argument that one should offer counselling to talk women out of having an abortion. What if one were in the situation where BOTH mother and baby would die, and an abortion would at least save the mother's life? Or what if continuing the pregnancy would be of detrimental effect? There is much talk of politics and religeon, but little of actual medicine, and also no mention of the mother's own personhood. What about the mother's rights? Likening her to a drug addict is a poor comparison. I also find it interesting that many of the 'pro-lifer's' compare the unborn baby to repressed races, yet fail to see the negative ways in which women have been given subservient roles in society in nearly every major religeon. The personhood of the embryo is debatable-but surely even the pope will admit that in the 21st century the personhood and associated rights of the mother are definite. Begin your argument with her! - Jenny Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:57:14 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-154 simple solution life started thanks to one asteroid with a single cell organism landing a pool of water. with the current earths atmosphere the cell grew and adapted to the climate. with this cell mulitiplying it split into different cell edgeing towards the edge of the pool of water, changing the cells key features. the best way of acknowledging this is that we share genes with all animals and plants e.g monkey 99% and a bananna 50%. therefore it is easy to see that we all (life) came from one single cell organism which developed. - Dr. A.C.James Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:17:34 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-139 The real answer lies somewhere in the middle. Life begins at conception and should be protected by the laws of our country. Abortions might sometimes still be necessary because you are dealing with 2 lives that are linked together in a very special way. It is unlike any other situation in the medical field. You cannot force one person to die or suffer for another. Therefore, pregnancies that were the result of rape should always have that option available to the mother as should any cases where the mother's life is in serious danger. Inconvienience, fear, lack of money, etc. should never be used as an exscuse to take a baby's life. All of this needs to go hand in hand with major reforms concerning adoptions once the baby is born. - Bres Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:31:05 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-128 Although I've researched when life begins scientifically, I don't need scientific facts to determine if a baby in the womb is a baby. Anyone with eyes that want to see will admit, an unborn child is a baby and not pregnancy tissue and left alone will become a you or a me or one of your children. Life is precious and everyone in it is precious. Pro-life or Pro-Choice???? Whatever the government decides you will make your own choices either behind closed doors or with legal permission. Try not to defend a position and take a good hard look and decide with an open heart and an open mind. - Diane Mardis Sat, 30 May 2009 02:13:42 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-110 Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. Note History 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Seems to me the answer is already out there. This is the 14th amendment to the US Constitution. Let's enforce it - Byron Tatti Mon, 13 Apr 2009 00:39:22 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-84 Dictionary.com - life 1. the condition that distinguishes organisms from inorganic objects and dead organisms, being manifested by growth through metabolism, reproduction, and the power of adaptation to environment through changes originating internally. Dictionary.com - organism 1. a form of life composed of mutually interdependent parts that maintain various vital processes. Dictionary.com - embryo 1. the young of a viviparous animal, esp. of a mammal, in the early stages of development within the womb, in humans up to the end of the second month. Wouldn't an organism (embryo) within a human womb then be classfied as a human organism, i.e. human life? - Sally Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:32:28 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-83 The argument posed by Dr. Holland confused me a bit, for she was supporting the definitive stance of NO on abortion with the ethos of ambiguity. If we aren't certain when life begins or ends, then wouldn't the correct ethical choice be to ban abortion? I mean, if abortion may or may not be murder, then I would want to remain on the safe side of the issue, right? I also agree that it is a travesty when a mother is driven to back alley abortions, but this is an easy emotional appeal without much foundation in logic. Murder cannot be endorsed by the government, no matter how bad we feel for the murderer. I understand the baby and the mother lives will be difficult, but if you support abortion, then what are you saying? That it's better to be dead than poor? That's an unfortunately selfish notion, engendered by an increasingly irresponsible and unloving culture. So please stop acting like a bunch of ignorant hicks and listen to the science. Just say NO to bad logic. - Sean K. Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:20:21 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-79 The title of this commentary equates each of these sad moments in human history with the current "Culture of Death." The proponents of abortion and embryonic stem cell research ignore the fact that the zygote is a human being and is due the rights of a person protected by law. By continuing the debate of when the embryo is a person allows these thriving industries to benefit from an economic and social windfall. The pro abortionists want to eliminate this " inconvenience" for economic or social reasons and the stem cell industry expects an unlimited financial bonanza from "alleged cures." Ironically the proponents of the death culture are appalled at the barbaric antics of the 19th century slave owner or 2oth century fascist. Remember, always revert to the tried and true method of convincing the masses that you are not dealing with human beings,rather sub-humans or vermin that need to be eliminated outright or harvested for the good of the superior beings. The important point here is to cause doubt, promise incredible cures, until the majority considers the lie to be truth. Once entrenched in the minds of the populace you can procede to the next step of when should life end for the good of the society. - Bert Brocato Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:40:33 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-47 There can be no discussion about when life begins. It is obvious when life begins. Pro-Choice/pro-abortion folks should just fess up and admit that they just plain don't care. They care about a murderer ondeath row; they care about a spotted owl; they care about everything but the obvious. If a fetus stands in the way of getting an education or job, it is sacrificial. To say you are pro-choice is like Pilate washing his hands and letting the Hebrews choose to kill Jesus. It is sickening and a sign of our selfish times. - Mike Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:15:42 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-45 human life begins at the moment of conception and never ends... i found a great website to help me explain this. this article is all one needs so please check it out. http://www.allaboutpopularissues.org/when-does-life-begin-faq.htm - Merz Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:54:31 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-43 PRETTY GOOD ARTICLE - CRISTAL LOZANO Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:17:07 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-42 Abortions will always exist, my concern is to provide a safe environment for the procedure. I find it curious that people who are against abortion rights for religious reasons do not seem troubled with the extreme efforts that are often provided to keep obvious miscarriages from happening. A miscarriage is natures natural way. - Dr. J Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:17:51 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-41 Two very passionate sides to the argument. I don't think anybody knows when life starts. Nobody knows when some threashold is met, and an embryo instantly is considered alive. This argument is like an argument over who's religion is right. No matter what side you are on, you can't win this argument. - Day Of Fame Game Guy Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:18:17 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-40 Considering continuous process of development, life needs to be defended. Just like black were not considered humans and Jew where used for experimentation in Germany.....the same is happening to HUMAN embryos. Who speaks for them? - V. Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:18:07 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-37 And He clearly is, since it His creation (image and likeness and all that). Why take a chance unless one is absolutely sure. And if you don't believe in God, then life won't be much of a problem believing in anyway, unless it's your own. - clement charles Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:29:02 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-34 To respond to Kyle (I guess I'm a pro-lifer) if back alley abortions are a problem with making abortion legal then that is a system issue that would need to be addressed by enforcing laws and offering services to help moms cope with the desire to get an illegal abortion. Much like drug counseling, etc. If the justification for making something legal is because people would do it anyway then drugs, speeding, etc. should be legalized also. I came to this article wondering what pro-choice advocates consider to be the start of the beginning of human rights. I was surprised that scientific entities cannot take a stand on that determination. - Justin Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:10:36 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-33 I don't think the debate between this side and that has anything to do with the medical community or the government. I don't think the issue should be left up to lawmakers to decide. There will always be opponents and proponents on both sides of this one, and I can only see bad news on one side of this if it is banned. back alley abortion and those women dying. What do the pro-lifers have to say about that? Just some food for thought. I'm not trying to incite a riot. - kyle Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:30:40 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-27 I think that is the question being debated, David. - James Hubbard, M.D., M.P.H, Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:02:08 +0100 http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html#comment-26 is a fetus considered life or as a human being - david Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:58:24 +0100